Some more Kadetsky information

Evidence points to the fact that Bessie and Morris lived with my great grandparents in 1900 and are listed in the census as "cousins" but what the relationship is, is as yet unknown.

Moshe ben Abraham.

More KADETSKY information

Ellis Island arrival records.

Menashe Kadetsky b. 1881 arrived: 3 January 1904 Age on Arrival : 23 Residence London
Samuel Kadetsky b. 1880 arrived: 24 April 1904 Age on Arrival: 24 Residence London
Itzchok Kadetsky b. 1870 arrived: 29 July 1903 Age on Arrival : 33 Residence Szerpeck (in Plock)

This information is available on Ellis Island records. Because "our" Kadetskies came over in 1879, before Ellis Island existed, I have no idea of the link between these three men and our family. Any information or suggestions are welcome.....

Castle Garden arrivals (1830 to 1913) include:

ISRAEL KADETSKY LABORER age: 30 Male arrived: 20 Jun 1871 from: GERMANY Ship name: WISCONSIN

And here are some alternative spelling possibilities:

ALBERT KADETZ LABORER age: 25 Male arrived: 12 Sep 1892 from RUSSIA Ship name: DUBBELDAM
BLINNE KADETZKI WOMAN age: 48 Female arrived: 25 Aug 1880 from RUSSIA Ship name: GELLERT
ESTHER KADETZKI DAUGHTER age: 9 Female arrived: 25 Aug 1880 from RUSSIA Ship name: GELLERT
ALBERT KADETZKI FARMER age: 21 Male arrived: 23 Mar 1887 from GERMANY Ship name: HERMANN


REBECKE KADECKE UNKNOWN age 41 Female arrived: 23 Jun 1893 RUSSIA Ship name: FURST BISMARCK
U KADECKI LABORER age 36 Male arrived: 19 Jul 1893 RUSSIA Ship name: DRESDEN
CZERNE KADECZ CHILD, YOUNGSTER age 9 Female arrived: 19 Jul 1893 RUSSIA Ship name: DRESDEN
SCHORE KADECZ CHILD, YOUNGSTER age 7 Female arrived: 19 Jul 1893 RUSSIA Ship name: DRESDEN
SCHYNE KADECZ LABORERage 45 Female arrived: 19 Jul 1893 RUSSIA Ship name: DRESDEN


CHAJE KADESCHKY WIFE 65 F 25 Jan 1894 RUSSIA STATE OF NEBRASKA
LEIBE KADESCHKY CHILD, YOUNGSTER 10 F 25 Jan 1894 RUSSIA STATE OF NEBRASKA


ABRAM KADISCHKY FARMER 14 M 3 Mar 1890 RUSSIA RHAETIA
DAVID KADISCHKY LABORER 19 M 14 Sep 1891 RUSSIA GELLERT
ISAAC KADISCHKY SHOEMAKER 17 M 9 Apr 1891 RUSSIA ST. OF PENNSYLVANIA

CHAJE KADISCKY FARMER 23 F 25 Jul 1896 RUSSIA PALATIA
HIRSCH KADISCKY CHILD, YOUNGSTER 2 M 25 Jul 1896 RUSSIA PALATIA

ELIAS KADISKI MERCHANT 21 M 27 Nov 1888 RUSSIA POLYNESIA
ABRAM KADISKY LABORER 24 M 5 Nov 1888 RUSSIA RHAETIA
BERTE KADISKY WIFE 38 F 4 Nov 1895 RUSSIA BERLIN
DAVID KADISKY LABORER 17 M 2 Jul 1892 RUSSIA RUSSIA
DOBE KADISKY CHILD, YOUNGSTER 11 F 4 Nov 1895 RUSSIA BERLIN


FRENCE KADISKY CHILD, YOUNGSTER 7 F 4 Nov 1895 RUSSIA BERLIN
JACOB KADISKY CHILD, YOUNGSTER 9 M 4 Nov 1895 RUSSIA BERLIN
LEIBE KADISKY LABORER 13 F 4 Nov 1895 RUSSIA BERLIN
LEIZE KADISKY UNKNOWN 13 F 20 Dec 1893 RUSSIA SPAARNDAM

Some more KADETSKY trivia that might jog our memories.

Mark says:
Adolph Kadet – from Biezun Poland, who was my grandfathers (Abraham Wolman) uncle (my gf mothers brother), was absolutely originally Abraham Kadetsky born 14 Oct 1883 - died 15 Aug 1962. His wife was Yetta F. Kadet born 30 May 1887 - died 4 Feb 1959 in San Diego, California

And some things I pulled ou from the Internet back when:

Naturalizations
Surname - Name Year naturalised file details
Kadetsky - Abraham 1929 426 135184 K332
Kadetsky - Elias 1925 45557 K332
Kadetsky - Fanny 1944 1462 408149 K332
Kadetsky - Henry 1925 151 37034 K332
Kadetsky - Morris 1916 60 14707 K332

NY Grooms/Brides' Index
Date married File details
Kadetsky - Anna Dec 26 1930 9608 Bronx K332
Kadetsky - Anna Aug 17 1902 15787 Manhattan K332
Kadetsky - Esther Nov 12 1934 19125 Kings K332
Kadetsky - Florence R Sep 7 1935 8239 Bronx K332
Kadetz - Anna Mar 7 1880 1596 Manhattan K332
Kaditsky - Jean May 4 1931 3094 Bronx K332
Kaditus - Helen Jan 28 1929 860 Bronx K332
Kadowitz Rose Aug 13 1934 6204 Bronx K332
Katetsky - Gertrude Jun 26 1932 4245 Bronx K332

KADETSKY family connections

I have recently been contacted by a descendent of Rachael KADETSKY from Biezun, and given family details. I've not yet been able to see any link to our Kadetskies but will keep looking. Mark, the man who e-mailed me, has been sharing his family data and I have give him ours (Abraham Joseph and Adeline's details) and hopefully we can find the missing link.

Please check this out and if there is anything that sounds familiar to you, please let me know: that is how we can follow the connections and find the generation were our families intersect.

Mark says:

All the Kadetskys I see in the MA area don’t seem connected to mine yet, BUT I have found a possible one: Harold M. Kadet (probably changed from Kadetsky) born Nov 27 1927 died Jan 17 2000 first lived in Brooklyn NY, but then moved and later died in Hinsdale MA:

221 Ashmere Dr. Hinsdale MA 01235

His parents were:

Henry Kadet 1903-1980
Paula B. Kadet 1907-1982

They are buried with a lot of my other relatives (Wolman, Kadetsky, etc.) in Elmont NY at Beth David Cemetery. Attached are photos of all the Kadetsky/Kadet/Kadetz stones I have….and as far as your maps and data, I would love anything you are willing to share. (I'm going to have the stones translated and upload a.s.a.p.)

My maternal grandfather, Abraham Wolman’s mother was Rachael Kadetzki (Kadetski, Kadet, etc. Not sure of the original name in Poland but I think it was Kadetzki). Rachael Kadetzki’s siblings were Moshe Aharon, Adoph and William and William’s wife was Dora.

Here’s info I have on William:
Born 1885 – Russia
Residence in US: 510 Concord Street, Bronx, NY
Was an elevator operator as per the 1920 census

I have photos of graves of Mary and Morris Kadetsky (husband and wife) and other Kadet and Kadetz graves with names and dates. The only other one I “know” about is Ely.

Gussie Kadetz
Ely Kadetz (my maternal grandfather Abraham Wolman’s cousin – Ely was the son of one of Abraham’s mother Rachel’s brother or sister)
Henry Kadet
Paula B. Kadet
Harold M. Kadet

Slim, I know. I have come in contact with a girl whose great grandfather was William above, so that makes her great grandfather and my great grandmother brother and sister – wild.

Mark.


A year ago my niece spent a few days in the Massachusetts Archives and found the following ( I haven't put it in any order yet, but here it is anyway):

Death Certificates info:
1) Isaac Kadetsky died July 11th 1891 (born July 14th 1854) at age 38 ( i think they are a year off on the age, only a few days though) died of Pericarditis,
lived on Prince street in Boston, no info on the burial site.
Occupation: Clerk
Parents' birthplace and name: Samuel and Rosa "Abraham" ( unfortunately there was a hole in the original paper right where her name was I spent a while studying it and this the best I could make out of it).
Both from Russia

Isaac's sons:
2) Jacob Kadetsky ( number 2) Born July 16th 1883
Father: Isaac Kadetsky and mother Dora, Father's job: clerk,
Both parents born in Poland.
3) Abraham Kadetsky Born on Feb 28th 1885.
From parents Isaac and Dora Kadetsky
lived at 33 Pitts street Boston
As you will see there is a lot of repeats on the names.the 2 original Isaac and Jacob from Russia had different parents, maybe the fathers Elias and Samuel were brothers.
4) Jacob Kadetsky died on March 1rst 1906 (born Sept. 20th 1853) at age 51 ( that is what it says on the death Cert., but if the birth day is accurate then he was really 53).
He was a Pedler
Lived at 11 Payston street Boston,
Son of Elias Kadetsky from Russia and Gertrude Lashinsky born in Russia.
Below is the death certificate from a son that Jacob had:Abram Kadetsky died aug 13th 1889 at 1 year and 10 months old, Parents: Jacob and Pauline Kadetsky, Russia.
Lived at 23 Decatur street in Boston,
They are also the parents of Rosa Kadetsky, born in 1882 .

This infant is a grandson of Abraham and Schifra:
Then we have Isaac Kadetsky son of Jacob, Born on Oct 9th, died Oct 12th 1907 at 3 days of age.
Parents: Jacob Kadetsky born in NY and Mother Rebecca Wallockstein, born in Boston.

And last but not least we have Rose Kadetsky died March 21rst 1910 at 71 years old. Wife of Samuel Kadetsky from Russia-Poland. Daughter of Jacob Jackson and Adeline Levy both from Russia. This last bit is a little unclear because on Isaac's death Cert. in 1891 Rosa's last name does not match Jackson I am sure of it, as hard as it was to read the first letter was unmistakable as an "A" not doubt about it. hard to say what that is about.
.

A new "mini" blog

In order for this blog to remain "Private" yet still be contacted by interested relatives, I have created a second "mini blog" with a list of surnames and my e-mail address - that one should appear on major search engines, so anyone searching one of the surnames on this blog can find and contact me and if they are related, I can invite them to join our group.

The URL for that blog is
http://www.hymoff-family-blog.blogspot.com/

The entries on google and other search engines will remain up for this blog, but anyone trying to link from them will be advised that they require an invitation.

So far 9 people have accepted the invitation and 22 are pending.

correspondence relating to KADETSKY

Over the years I have been in touch with people who for some reason were connected with certain surnames. I will slowly copy some of the correspondence here in case anything rings a bell with anyone...

June 2004
"All I have for you about the KADETSKY name is that a man who may have been named Ben Kadetsky married a woman whose last name was SOBEL. They had at least one child possibly named Sam Kadetsky. Ben Kadetsky would have been born about 1840. I have no documentation. This information was given to me by an in-law of mine related to the Sobels. Family tradition says the Sobels came from Poland. I have no information about anyone in Boston. The Sobels I know of were New Yorkers. Sorry I can't be more helpful.

WASSERZUG- WATERS

Si Waters and his Hymoff sisters, Dora, Grace, Charlotte and Sarah, at a family wedding in 1950.

Adeline (Hadel Esther) KADETSKY married a man named WASSERZUG in the US and later divorced him. They had a son, Simon, born in 1885, who is called "Simon Hymoff" in some census records. He later changed the name to WATERS. Adeline soon after married Israel Hymoff and they had five surviving children, the four ladies in the picture above and my grandfather Gustave.

We have been unable to find Simon's father's first name anywhere. I hope a visit to the Archives might turn it up, or even yield the marriage information of Adeline and Mr. Wasserzug.

- 1900 United States Federal Census: Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston
27 Lowell Street home of Abraham KADETSKY. Living with him, was

* Abraham’s cousin, Simon HYMOF (male born May 1885 in Russia).

- 1910 Census: "Technology Chambers - 8 Livingston Street" Boston"Simon Waters was in Boston in the 1910 Census. He was 23 in 1910, born abt 1886, single, lodger, wool salesman. He was born in Massachusetts, but his mother and father were born in Poland/Russ/Yiddish. " (info sent me by a helpful fellow genner) .

1925 Boston Business Directory:
Waters Simon, wool 263 Summer rm 506 h at B'line

1930 census:

Simon Waters (aged 43) was living on number 9, Rawson (Sp?) Road with his wife, Minna Coles (aged 39 and born in Pennsylvania of Russian parents), his son Richard N (age 7) and his daughter Esther (Waters Bovarnick) ( age 4.5) and their servant Margaret Kelly, aged 29.


I'd like to develop this line a little further and hope the Waters family will contribute pictures and more information...

HYMOFFs and KADETSKIES in the Census

All Kadetskies are in RED
First of all, I have the following Naturalisation information on Israel Hymoff:

Declaration of Intention
1 document 3 pages – Israel Hymoff
Petition for Naturalisation
Born Lublin Russian Poland Sept 11 1871
Arrived NY, NY June 26 1889

I have looked several times for a ship that arrived in NYC on that date without any luck.

The 1890 census was destroyed in a fire, so we will never know what it said.

CENSUS RECORDS:

1900 United States Federal Census: Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Chelsea
102 Everett Avenue
Israel Hymuth (male born in January 1869 in Russia) is living with his wife Adaline (female born in January 1866 in Poland). They have four children: Simon (male born January 1885 in Massachusetts), Dora (female born December 1891 in Massachusetts), Getchel (male born September 1893 in Massachusetts), and Rachael (female born August 1894 in Massachusetts). Isreal and Adaline have been married for nine years.

Israel arrived in the United States in 1890 and is a naturalized citizen. His parents were born in Russia. Adaline arrived in 1879. Her parents were born in Poland (Russia).

1910 United States Federal Census: Massachusetts
Israel is listed in the census records as an inmate a Sanatorium in Rutland MA.:
Massachusetts, Worcester County, Rutland: Rutland State Sanatorium: Israel HYMOFF is a patient in the sanatorium. He was born in about 1868 in Germany. He has been married for 17 years. His parents were both born in Germany. Israel arrived in the United States in 1887 and is a naturalized citizen. He speaks English. His occupation is listed as “Merchant”

The remaining "HYMASS" family was found as follows:
191 Magnolia Street, Suffolk County: Israel Hymas or Hymov, aged 47, Adeline, aged 46, Gustave, son aged 15, Dora, daughter aged 17, Grace, aged 11, Lottie age 8 and Sarah age 6.

1920 United States Federal Census: Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston
5 Otisfield Street
Max Cohen (male born about 1884 in Ohio) is living with his wife Dora (female born about 1893 in Massachusetts). They have three children: Sydney (male born about 1915 in Massachusetts), Melvin (male born about 1917 in Massachusetts), and Selma B. (female born about 1919 in Massachusetts). The entire Cohen family is listed as being Jewish. Max’s occupation is listed as “Cutter” in store.

Also living with Max and his family are:

· His father-in-law, Israel Hymoff (male born about 1868 in Russia). Israel is listed as a widower and is listed as being Jewish. Both of his parents are listed as being born in Russia. Israel’s occupation is listed as “Florist” in a florist store.
· His (Max's) brother-in-law, Gustave Hymoff (male born about 1895 in Massachusetts). Gustave is listed as being single and Jewish.
· His sister-in-law, Grace Hymoff (female born about 1916 in Massachusetts). Listed as single and Jewish. Grace’s occupation is listed as working in a dress factory·
* His sister-in-law, Charlotte Hymoff (female born about 1903 in Massachusetts). Listed as single and Jewish.
· His sister-in-law, Sarah Hymoff (female born about 1905 in Massachusetts). Listed as single and Jewish.
· His cousin, Moses Kadetsky (male born about 1894 in Massachusetts). Listed as married and Jewish. Parents were born in Russia. His occupation is a Salesman in shoe store.
· His cousin, Bessie Kadetsky (female born about 1895 in Massachusetts). Listed as married and Jewish. Parents were born in Russia.

1930 United States Federal Census: Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston5 Otisfield Street
Max Cohen (male born about 1885 in Ohio) is living with his wife Dora (female born about 1893 in Masschusetts). They have four children: Sydney (male born about 1914 in Massachusetts), Melvin (male born about 1917 in Massachusetts), S*** (female born about 1919 in Massachusetts) and Henry (male born about 1918 in Massachusetts and since identified as belonging to another Cohen family). The entire Cohen family is listed as being Jewish. Max was 28 years old when he married Dora, who was 19 years old. The family owned a radio. Max’s occupation is listed as a “Cutter” for ladies' garments.

Also living with Max and his family are:

· His father-in-law, Israel Hymoff (male born about 1870 in Russia). Israel is listed as being a widower and Jewish. Israel’s occupation is listed as “Florist” jobbing. His native tongue is Hebrew. He arrived in the United States in 1891 and is a naturalized citizen.

760 Montana StreetGustave Hymoff (male born about 1896 in Massachusetts) is living with his wife Gertrude E. (female born about 1898 in Russia). They have two children: Edward (male born about 1924 in Massachusetts) and P**** (female born about 1929 in Massachusetts). Gertrude’s native tongue is listed as Yiddish and she arrived in the United States in 1906. She is a naturalized citizen. Gustave’s occupation is listed as “Florist.” The family owns a radio.

The 1940 census will be made public in 2012, meanwhile.....

Many details in the census information are incorrect - this can be due to sloppy filling out by the census taker, bad English communication skills by the informant, mistaken interpretation by the person introducing the data into the indexing system, or any other factor. And his grandchildren tell us that Israel tended to tell everyone different things about his origins, so we will never know if he was listed as "German" at Rutland by a mistaken staff member or if he himself made it up, maybe stating that where he was from was at the time actually Germany and no longer Poland.....   Borders did shift a lot back then!

Indirect relatives - The Books

Etta's father Arthur Book married Dora Hymoff Cohen, bringing his children Etta, Gertrude and Joseph, from his previous marriage into the family. Ed and Etta were very close friends all their lives and they lived nearby when Ed lived in Yonkers and we met frequently I visited Etta in Florida last in 1992. Her two children are great and now have children of their own.

Dora had first been married to Max Cohen, with whom she had three children, one of whom is still with us. I coincided with Melvin and Sidney and his wife Tammy at several family gatherings in the 70's but haven't found any pictures of them yet.


These pictures were taken at the Bohm's home in Hartsdale NY, cerca 1975.
After taking a look at those old pictures and saying "OH MY !!!!, Matt Bohm sent me these much more recent pictures of himself and his family and gave me permission to tell you who they are: Matt and his wife Jill, daughter Hally and son Zach.


Confused as to the relationship? Take a look at the tree posted at
http://hymoffkoeppelfamily.blogspot.com/2007/11/hymoff-family-tree.html

1910 census HYMOFF

In the 1910 census, the Hymoff family (recorded as the "Hymass" family) was living at 191 Magnolia Street in Suffolk County, MA. They were: Israel, Adeline, Gustave (the son first although he was not the oldest!) Dora, Grace, Lottie (Charlotte) and Sarah. It took me some time to find them and am extremely grateful to the helpful Genner who found the record and scanned it for us!

Adeline and Israel Hymoff's unsurviving children

This is the original death record of Lena Hymoff, born to Adeline and Israel Hymoff in Boston and died aged 7 months on January 6, 1897.

There was another child named Rachel who must have died as she did not reach adulthood. She is mentioned in the 1900 census as having been born in 1899. Although she could be a mistake and really be Grace Rebecca with a wrong birth date. Census are filled with errors.

A boy named Getchel is also named in the 1900 census, as having been born in Boston in 1893. Unless it is an error and it is really Gustave born in 1895, Adeline then had three children who did not survive childhood. This was unfortunately frequent back then.

Adeline's children would have been the following:

Simon Waters - born 1885

Dora Hymoff - born 1892

Getchel born 1893 - death date unknown

Gustave - born 1895

Lena - born 1896 - died 1897

Grace Rebecca - born 1898

Rachel - born 1899 - death date unknown

Charlotte - born 1902

Sarah - born 1904

This tree will help sort matters out:

http://hymoffkoeppelfamily.blogspot.com/2007/11/hymoff-family-tree.html

Sarah Ross Hymoff Rosenberg

My great-Aunt Sarah was born in Boston on April 6, 1904 (above is her original birth record in the Boston Archives) and died in 2000. She married Sam Rosenberg and they had two sons. Sarah and my mother shared a great interest for health and nutrition and were both pioneers in organic food and were great friends until 1982, when Sarah visited us here on the Canary Islands and saw how ill my mother was yet refused to stop smoking. It was not as friendly a visit as it should have been and I know both of them were saddened by it. Sarah remained in excellent health and lived to the ripe age of 96! I did remain in contact with Sarah and with Sam too, until they died and know how fond my father was of them both.

A family wedding in 1950

A cousin recently sent me this picture with the people identified. They are the cousins on the Hymoff side: back row left to right: Melvin Cohen and his wife Edna; Eddie Hymoff; Bobbie Schildmeier and his wife Nettie; Sarah Hymoff's son; Adeline Schildmeier Bagget and her husband Charles; front row, left to right: Charlotte's son; Dora's daughter; the newlyweds (Gustave's daughter and her husband) ; Sara's son; Tammy and Sidney Cohen. Except for one of Charlotte's sons, all the Hymoff descendents are present in this picture.

Confused???: check out the tree to see who is who:
http://hymoffkoeppelfamily.blogspot.com/2007/11/hymoff-family-tree.html


This wedding took place in 1950. Do let me know if you see yourself or your sister, mother, grandmother here.....

















Israel Hymoff and my father, Eddie in the front, as grandfather and brother of the bride. Help us identify the rest of the gentlemen!

The Hymoff side of the family: back row, left to right: Eddie, Arthur Book, Ben Schildmeier, Gertrude, Sam Rosenberg, Dave Lesser. Front row: Gracie, the happy couple, Sara, Dora and behind her, Charlotte.


The Kravetsky side of the family: Israel, Gersha, Eddie all the way in the back, Abraham between his two daughters, Millie seated on the armrest. Front Row, Toby, Ida, the happy couple and Gertrude.
************************************************************************************************
There are several families all gathered here for a Hymoff family wedding. Kravetskies, Hymoffs, Waters, Kadetskies... I need your help to identify them all....
Left to right, Izzie, Toby, BZ, standing up in back : Millie and Abe and Ida. Who are seated in front of them?



With your help we'll get everyone identified...

Remember, I will not post the names of anyone still alive without their permission. If you want me to add your name, please just tell me!

A Family Celebration

I've been told this was a Bar Mitzvah gathering. It was around 1945, soon after my grandfather Gustave had died (which is why Nanny Gert looks so sad. She is in front there on the right). My father was in the army.

Front to back, left to right (only people deceased are named - none of those still alive have given me permission yet):

left: Israel Hymoff, far right: , Gertrude Hymoff. The three boys in front are still with us, as is Gertrude's daughter, sitting at her side...
Row of ladies in the middle (left to right): Sara, Charlotte, Dora, Gracie.
All the way in back: Dave Lesser, Arthur Book, Sam Rosenberg, Etta Book (Dora's stepdaughter), Bobbie Schildmeier and Sara's son.

Corrections are welcome...

Ellis Island entries for KADETSKY

These are entries of Kadetsky and similar names. If we Kadetskies are all related, then these are worth following up.

Sierpc is a town very close to Biezun and Golub Dobrzyn, and Zrjeps could be an alternative spelling. Szerpeck is in Hungary.

Abraham and Hadel Esther did not enter via Ellis Island as it did not yet exist when they came in in 1879. I have not been able to find them in Castle Garden records. We know they were in New York before moving to Boston, which was around 1880 or 81.

A bit of infomation for you dedicated genealogists in the family: CastleGarden.org offers free access to an extraordinary database of information on 10 million immigrants from 1830 through 1892, the year Ellis Island opened. Over 73 million Americans can trace their ancestors to this early immigration period.

There is only one Kadetsky there:

ISRAEL KADETSKY, LABORER aged 30 Male, arrived on 20 Jun 1871 from GERMANY Ship: WISCONSIN

They might be listed under different spelling variations. In the 1880 census Abraham and family are listed as CADESKY.

AGNES KADESKA, GENTLEMAN'S SERVANT age 26 Female, arrived 22 Mar 1889 from GERMANY, Ship: AMERICA

Boston Jewish Advocate KADETSKY Obituaries and Wedding Announcements

This is the kind of information that makes people say "oh, THAT'S how we're related!!!"

"our" Kadetsky BMD records and census data

The earliest mention in Boston is:
1900 United States Federal Census: Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston -27 Lowell Street
Abraham J. KADETSKY (born May 1855 in Poland/Russia) is the head of the household. He is married to Shifra/Scillia/Celia (born January 1857 in Poland/Russia). They were married in approximately 1879. Both of their parents were born in Poland/Russia. Abraham and Scillia both arrived in the United States in 1878 and Abraham is a naturalized citizen. Abraham’s occupation is listed as “Tailor (coats).” They have the following children (I have colour-coded them to match them to later census records):

1. Isaac (male born October 1879 in New York)
2. Jacob (male born June 1881 in New York)
3. Louis (male born February 1884 in New York)
4. Benjamin (male born May 1885 in New York)
5. Flora (female born February 1888 in Massachusetts)
6. Charles (male born May 1889 in Massachusetts)
7. Isidor (male born July 1892 in Massachusetts)
8. Ro?? (Reuben?) (male born October 1898 in Massachusetts).

Also living with Abraham and Scillia is:

1. Abraham’s cousin, Simon HYMOF (male born May 1885 in Russia). maybe Simon Waters?

1910 United States Federal Census- Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston: 28 Lambert Street
Isaac KADETSKY (born about 1881 in New York) is the head of the household. He is married to Annie A. (born about 1883 in Russia/Yiddish). Isaac and Annie were married in about 1901. Both of their parents are listed as being born in Russia/Yiddish. By 1910, Annie had three children but only two were still living. Annie arrived in the United States in 1884. Isaac’s occupation is listed as “Collector of furniture.” Isaac and Annie have two children living with them:

1. Martha (female born about 1903 in Massachusetts)
2. Ethel F. (female born about 1908 in Massachusetts).

Note: Isaac KADETSKY and family are found in the 1920 census. Information included later in this document.

1910 Massachusetts, Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston: 20 Normandy Street
Jacob KADETSKY (born about 1882 in New York) is the head of the household. He is married to Rebecca (Wallockstein) (born about 1886 in Russia/Yiddish). Both of their parents were born in Russia/Yiddish. Jacob and Rebecca were married in about 1905. They have two children:

1. Allen (male born about 1907 in Massachusetts)
2. David (male born about 1909 in Massachusetts).

Note: Jacob KADETSKY and family are found in the 1920 census. Information included later in this document.

1920 Masschusetts, Suffolk County, Roxbury: 112 Brunswick Street
Benjamin SPELLMAN (born about 1889 in Russia) is the head of the household. He arrived in the United States in 1898. He is married to Flora (born about 1889 in Massachusetts). Living with Benjamin and Flora is their daughter:

1. Louise R. (female born about 1916 in Massachusetts).
Also living with Benjamin and Flora are:
1. Benjamin’s father-in-law, Abraham J. KADETSKY (born about 1860 in Russia). Abraham arrived in the United States in 1880 and became a naturalized citizen in 1885.
2. Benjamin’s mother-in-law, Shifra/ Celia (born about 1858 in Russia). She arrived in the United States in 1880.

1920 Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston: Street address is not readable
Charles KADETSKY (born about 1890 in Massachusetts) is the head of the household. He is married to Anna (born about 1895 in Russia/Poland). Anna arrived in the United States in 1901. Living with Charles and Anna are their two children:
1. Jordan (male born about 1917 in Massachusetts) (Irving)?
2. Isabelle (female born about 1920 in Massachusetts).
Also living with Charles and Anna are:
1. Charles’ brother-in-law, Samuel FINKELSTEIN (born about 1891 in Russia). Samuel arrived in the United States in 1905 and became a naturalized citizen in 1917.
2. Charles’ sister-in-law, Lena (born about 1899 in Poland). Lena arrived in the United States in 1901.
3. Charles’ nephew, Joseph FINKELSTEIN (born about 1919 in Massachusetts).

1920 Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston: 89 Intervale Street
Louis KADETSKY (born about 1884 in Massachusetts) is the head of the household. He is married to Sophie (born about 1889 in Russia). Sophie arrived in the United States in 1889. Their children, as listed below, are living with them:
1. Marian (female born about 1908 in Massachusetts)
2. Rose (female born about 1913 in Massachusetts)
3. Bernice (female born about 1920 in Massachusetts).

Also living with Louis and Sophie is:

1. Louis’ mother-in-law, Lena SHERMAN (born about 1860 in Russia). Lena is listed as a widow and arrived in the United States in 1895.
2. Louis’ brother-in-law, Edward SHERMAN (born about 1888 in Russia). Edward arrived in the United States in 1895.
3. Louis’ sister-in-law, Esther SHERMAN (born about 1890 in Russia). Esther arrived in the United States in 1899.
4. Louis’ nephew, Manuel SHERMAN (born about 1911 in Massachusetts)
5. Louis’ nephew, Henry SHERMAN (born about 1917 in Massachusetts).

1920 Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston: 91 Intervale Street
Isaac KADETSKY (born about 1881 in New York) is the head of the household. He is married to Annie A. (born about 1892 in Massachusetts). Annie arrived in the United States in 1892 Their children, as listed below, live with them:
1. Martha (female born about 1904 in Massachusetts).
2. Ethel (female born about 1908 in Massachusetts).

Also living with Isaac and Annie are:
1. Isaac’s father-in-law, David RICH (born about 1847 in Western Poland). David arrived in the United States in 1890.
2. Isaac’s mother-in-law, Annie P. RICH (born about 1840 in Warsaw, Poland). She arrived in the United States in 1883.

1920 Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston: 484 Blue Hill Avenue
Jacob KADETSKY (born about 1883 in New York) is the head of the household. He is married to Rebecca (born about 1886 in Russia/Poland). Rebecca arrived in the United States in 1890. Their children, as listed below, are living with them:

1. Allan (male born about 1907 in Massachusetts)
2. David (male born about 1910 in Massachusetts)
3. Myron (male born about 1916 in New York).

Here the Hymoff and Kadetsky familes interconnect again:
1920 Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston 5 Otisfield Street
Max Cohen (male born about 1884 in Ohio) is living with his wife Dora Hymoff Cohen (female born about 1893 in Massachusetts). They have three children: Sydney (male born about 1915 in Massachusetts), Melvin (male born about 1917 in Massachusetts), and Selma B. (female born about 1919 in Massachusetts). The entire Cohen family is listed as being Jewish. Max’s occupation is listed as “Cutter” in store.

Also living with Max and his family are:

· His father-in-law, Israel Hymoff (male born about 1868 in Russia). Israel is listed as a widower and is listed as being Jewish. Both of his parent’s are listed as being born in Russia. Israel’s occupation is listed as “Florist” in a florist store.
· His brother-in-law, Gustave Hymoff (male born about 1895 in Massachusetts). Gustave is listed as being single and Jewish.
· His sister-in-law, Grace Hymoff (female born about 1898 in Massachusetts). Listed as single and Jewish. Grace’s occupation is listed as working in a dress factory
· His sister-in-law, Charlotte Hymoff (female born about 1903 in Massachusetts). Listed as single and Jewish.
· His sister-in-law, Sarah Hymoff (female born about 1905 in Massachusetts). Listed as single and Jewish.
· His cousin, Moses (or Morris) Kadetsky (male born about 1894 in Massachusetts). Listed as married and Jewish. Parents were born in Russia. His occupation is a Salesman in shoe store.
· His cousin, Bessie Kadetsky (female born about 1895 in Massachusetts). Listed as married and Jewish. Parents were born in Russia.

1930 Masschusetts, Suffolk County, Roxbury: 112 Brunswick Street
Benjamin SPELLMAN (born about 1889 in Russia) is the head of the household. He arrived in the United States in 1898. He is married to Flora (born about 1889 in Massachusetts). Living with Benjamin and Flora is their daughter:

1. Louise R. (female born about 1916 in Massachusetts).
Also living with Benjamin and Flora are:
1. Irving, age 9 (male born around 1921 in MA) .
2. Benjamin’s mother-in-law, Shifra/Celia (born about 1858 in Russia). She arrived in the United States in 1880.

1930 Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Roxbury: 110 Brunswick Street
Louis Kadetsky, male born in NY around 1884, married to Sophia (Sherman) in 1906
and their daughters:

Marion age 22
Rose age 18
Bernice 10
Eleanor age 4

I'll eventually get to organising all this better, but meanwhile, at least you can see the information.

The 1940 census will not be available to the public until 2012, so meanwhile we have other data, such as marrriage announcements, obituaries, etc. , as well as personal reporting from each family branch. If you have any to add, please scan as a jpg and e-mail to the address above.

other Kadetsky census and records information

From several years' census records we have the following KADETSKY information that needs to be collated into a tree. They are not descendents of Abraham Josef nor do I yet know their exact relationship to us: maybe Samuel KADETSKY from Poland was related to our gggf R'Yitchak Yehoshua. Thanks to Celine who spent hours wading through records at the Records Bureau in Boston (her notes are included as they clarify some things) :

Death Certificates info:
1) Isaac Kadetsky died July 11th 1891 (born July 14th 1854) at age 38, died of Pericarditis, lived on Prince street in Boston, no info on the burial site. Occupation: Clerk. Parents' birthplace and name: Samuel and Rosa "Abraham" ( unfortunately there was a hole in the original paper right where her name was: I spent a while studying it and this the best I could make out of it). Both from Russia
Isaac's sons:
2) Jacob Kadetsky ( number 2) Born July 16th 1883 (Father: Isaac Kadetsky and mother Dora), Father's job: clerk, both parents born in Poland.
3) Abraham Kadetsky, Born on Feb 28th 1885 (From parents Isaac and Dora Kadetsky) lived at 33 Pitts street Boston.
As you will see there are a lot of repeated names.
The 2 original Isaac and Jacob from Russia had different parents, maybe the fathers Elias and Samuel were brothers.

4) Jacob Kadetsky died on March 1rst 1906 (born Sept. 20th 1853) at age 51 ( that is what it says on the death Cert., but if the birth day is accurate then he was really 53). He was a Peddler. Lived at 11 Payston street Boston. Son of Elias Kadetsky from Russia and Gertrude Lashinsky born in Russia. Below is the death certificate from a son that Jacob had: Abram Kadetsky died Aug 13th 1889 at 1 year and 10 months old, Parents: Jacob and Pauline Kadetsky, Russia. Lived at 23 Decatur street in Boston, They are also the parents of Rosa Kadetsky, born in 1882.

CENSUS INFORMATION:

1910: Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston: 75 Lawrence Avenue
Henry A. PORCELENO? (born about 1880 in Massachusetts) is the head of the household. He is married to Fr?? (born about 1880 in Massachusetts). They have been married since about 1906. Henry’s parents were born in Holland/Dutch and Fr??’s parents were born in Russia/Yiddish. They had one child who died before the 1910 census. Henry’s occupation is listed as a “Cigar maker in a factory.” Living with Henry and Fr?? is:

1. Henry’s mother-in-law, Pauline KADETSKY (born about 1855 in Germany). Pauline is a widow. She has had eight children but only seven are living in the 1910 census. Her parents were from Germany and Pauline arrived in the United States in 1872.
2. Henry’s sister-in-law, Naettia KADETSKY (born about 1886 in Massachusetts)
3. Henry’s sister-in-law, Lena KADETSKY (born about 1891 in Massachusetts)
4. Henry’s sister-in-law, Martha KADETSKY (born about 1893 in Massachusetts)
5. Henry’s sister-in-law, Edna KADETSKY (born about 1899 in Massachusetts).

1920 United States Federal Census: Massachusetts, Middlesex County, Everett: 145 Jefferson Avenue
Abraham KADETSKY (born about 1862 in Poland) is the head of the household. He arrived in the United States in 1901. He is married to Bessie (born about 1862 in Poland). Bessie arrived in the United States in 1905. Both of their parents are listed as being from Poland. Abraham’s occupation is listed as “Junk-man in a junk shop.” Living with Abraham and Bessie are their children:
1. Arthur (male born about 1890 in Poland). Arthur arrived in the United States in 1905.
2. Hyman (male born about 1896 in Poland). Hyman arrived in the United States in 1904.
Also living with Abraham and Bessie are:
1. Abraham’s son-in-law, Samuel MUSEMAN (born about 1893 in East Russia).
2. Abraham’s daughter (wife of Samuel MUSEMAN), Ida (born about 1897 in Poland).
3. Abraham’s grandson, Jake MUSEMAN (born about 1919 in Massachusetts)
4. Abraham’s grandson, Arthur MUSEMAN (born about 1919 in Massachusetts).

1920 Massachusetts, Worcester County, Clinton: 36 Pond Court
Edward KADETSKY (born about 1885 in Poland) is the head of the household. He arrived in the United States in 1904. He is married to Pearl (born about 1893 in Russia). Pearl also arrived in the United States in 1904.

It might be much easier to find those born in Poland if we had their Hebrew names, as that is most likely how they were recorded in the Polish archives.

BTW, many times when it states a person was born in "Russia"; they mean Poland as for many years, Poland belonged to Russia.

KADETSKY surname in Poland

Thanks to Wlodek Malinowsky, we have a list of towns in whose archives the Surname KADECKI (in English KADETSKY) can be found. JRI Poland has a very good search system that you can go through if you want the exact details, however, after reading through the lists, I find nothing resembling our known ancestors, Abraham Josef and Hadel Esther and their father R'Yitchak Yehoshua.

Here is a map where all the towns mentioned are marked. I'd been meaning to put this up for a long time but finally have got around to it, since Wlodek kindly sent the lists along and I hope it is as interesting to you as it is to me.

The towns where we've found Kadecki listings are (keep in mind that OUR direct Kadetsky ancestors all emigrated before 1880):

Biezun (86 entries, between 1828 and 1894)
Drobin (One entry, 1837, the death record for Iciek Abramowicz KADECKI)
Golub Dobrzyn (6 entries, all after 1890)
Plock (2 entries, 1869 and 1876, a marriage - Szulim- and the death of Chana Ruchla)
Plonsk (one entry, 1892 the marriage of Chenoch KADECKI)
Warsaw (4 entries, between 1887 and 1904)
Zakroczym (20 entries between 1862 and 1897)
Zuromin (one entry: 1898 marriage of Zurech)
Ciechanow (Katacki - possible variation in spelling) (2 entries from 1841)

Mlawa: the town where other listings are recorded.
Torun: the Archives where the Biezun records are located.

We also found an entry in Zychlin, for a Wasercug. The town is close enough to indicate that the Waters family and the Kadetsky family may have known each other in Poland already. There are several Hymoffs/Chaimows in the area but that is a more common surname and thus may or may not be related to us. Lublin, where Israel Hymoff reportedly was born, is in the lower right hand corner and close enough to leave the possibility open that there is a pre-USA link.

All comments are welcome!

Letter to all Relatives

Dear All,
We (Gary Lelonek, Mark Hallerman and Jenni Hymoff) have slowly been uploading a lot of the genealogical information we've been gathering in the last 10 years, to this KADETSKY family blog.

There is a lot more to be added and we am slowly working on it when we get some spare time (not easy for us, but anyway!) and we will welcome anything you wish to add. Pictures, trees, family anecdotes: all are welcome.  There is a specific address on the blog that you can use, Kadetskyfamilyhistory@gmail.com. or our personal e-mail addresses.

Several comments to you all:
We will not publish names of living persons without their express consent, nor pictures that are less than 25 years old, IF there are living people on it (this is accepted genealogical practice), without the express consent of the people pictured. This means YOU!!! If you do not give us (Gary or myself) your consent, your entry (and that of your children and grandchildren unless they separately authorise us to) will give only birth year and gender: in other words: "female, born 1958" (see attached examples). If you want us to state anything different, please feel free to tell us! No geographical information will be given for living persons either, nor will anything like Social Security numbers, addresses, phone numbers or any other contact info for anyone but us EVER, unless you expressly authorise us to publish yours.

We would also greatly appreciate your feedback on the site: all comments are welcome, especially if you correct wrong information. This blog is for all of us, to collect the information for all, in one place and after a few weeks awaiting your collective and individual replies, We will adapt the family trees and upload it with names and birth dates appropriately deleted where need be. Spouses' names will not be included without authorisation unless both are deceased. Anything uploaded can be downloaded, so if you wish something to be changed, let us know. Reasonable requests will be honoured. And if you are not on it yet, you will be as soon as we get to your branch!   We'd also love to hear from anyone not previously contacted, to fill in gaps and get to know you!
Any family member requesting it will be able to get via e-mail or post, the "real" tree (complete with who is who) and copies of pictures or documents. I'm very slow at answering postal requests, but will eventually get to you!  Gary is much better at it, but please be patient as we are both employed and this is a hobby..... 
You may refer others (preferably family) to this site but we will only be sharing it amongst us, the family (extended, but only if that person is mentioned on it, we've not gone as far as to add cousins of cousins). We can eventually set up a password to access it, if you want, but the general idea is for it to be accessible to all so that we can gather the most infomation and relatives.   You are also welcome to copy pictures or trees for your personal use, or we can send better resolution ones via e-mail.
Hoping you enjoy your first visit to the blog and looking forward to your feedback!
cheers,
Gary Lelonek and Jenni Hymoff (with Mark Hallerman's input as well)