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Saturday 31 May 2008

Indirect relatives - The Books

Etta's father Arthur Book married Dora Hymoff Cohen, bringing his children Etta, Gertrude and Joseph, from his previous marriage into the family. Ed and Etta were very close friends all their lives and they lived nearby when Ed lived in Yonkers and we met frequently I visited Etta in Florida last in 1992. Her two children are great and now have children of their own.

Dora had first been married to Max Cohen, with whom she had three children, one of whom is still with us. I coincided with Melvin and Sidney and his wife Tammy at several family gatherings in the 70's but haven't found any pictures of them yet.


These pictures were taken at the Bohm's home in Hartsdale NY, cerca 1975.
After taking a look at those old pictures and saying "OH MY !!!!, Matt Bohm sent me these much more recent pictures of himself and his family and gave me permission to tell you who they are: Matt and his wife Jill, daughter Hally and son Zach.


Confused as to the relationship? Take a look at the tree posted at
http://hymoffkoeppelfamily.blogspot.com/2007/11/hymoff-family-tree.html

Saturday 24 May 2008

1910 census HYMOFF

In the 1910 census, the Hymoff family (recorded as the "Hymass" family) was living at 191 Magnolia Street in Suffolk County, MA. They were: Israel, Adeline, Gustave (the son first although he was not the oldest!) Dora, Grace, Lottie (Charlotte) and Sarah. It took me some time to find them and am extremely grateful to the helpful Genner who found the record and scanned it for us!

Adeline and Israel Hymoff's unsurviving children


This is the original death record of Lena Hymoff, born to Adeline and Israel Hymoff in Boston and died aged 7 months on January 6, 1897.
There was another child named Rachel who must have died as she did not reach adulthood. She is mentioned in the 1900 census as having been born in 1899. Although she could be a mistake and really be Grace Rebecca with a wrong birth date. Census are filled with errors.
A boy named Getchel is also named in the 1900 census, as having been born in Boston in 1893. Unless it is an error and it is really Gustave born in 1895, Adeline then had three children who did not survive childhood. This was unfortunately frequent back then.
Adeline's children would have been the following:
Simon Waters - born 1885
Dora Hymoff - born 1892
Getchel born 1893 - death date unknown
Gustave - born 1895
Lena - born 1896 - died 1897
Grace Rebecca - born 1898
Rachel - born 1899 - death date unknown
Charlotte - born 1902
Sarah - born 1904
This tree will help sort matters out:

Sarah Ross Hymoff Rosenberg







My great-Aunt Sarah was born in Boston on April 6, 1904 (above is her original birth record in the Boston Archives) and died in 2000. She married Sam Rosenberg and they had two sons. Sarah and my mother shared a great interest for health and nutrition and were both pioneers in organic food and were great friends until 1982, when Sarah visited us here on the Canary Islands and saw how ill my mother was yet refused to stop smoking. It was not as friendly a visit as it should have been and I know both of them were saddened by it. Sarah remained in excellent health and lived to the ripe age of 96! I did remain in contact with Sarah and with Sam too, until they died and know how fond my father was of them both.


Wednesday 7 May 2008

A family wedding in 1950

A cousin recently sent me this picture with the people identified. They are the cousins on the Hymoff side: back row left to right: Melvin Cohen and his wife Edna; Eddie Hymoff; Bobbie Schildmeier and his wife Nettie; Sarah Hymoff's son; Adeline Schildmeier Bagget and her husband Charles; front row, left to right: Charlotte's son; Dora's daughter; the newlyweds (Gustave's daughter and her husband) ; Sara's son; Tammy and Sidney Cohen. Except for one of Charlotte's sons, all the Hymoff descendents are present in this picture.

Confused???: check out the tree to see who is who:
http://hymoffkoeppelfamily.blogspot.com/2007/11/hymoff-family-tree.html


This wedding took place in 1950. Do let me know if you see yourself or your sister, mother, grandmother here.....

















Israel Hymoff and my father, Eddie in the front, as grandfather and brother of the bride. Help us identify the rest of the gentlemen!

The Hymoff side of the family: back row, left to right: Eddie, Arthur Book, Ben Schildmeier, Gertrude, Sam Rosenberg, Dave Lesser. Front row: Gracie, the happy couple, Sara, Dora and behind her, Charlotte.


The Kravetsky side of the family: Israel, Gersha, Eddie all the way in the back, Abraham between his two daughters, Millie seated on the armrest. Front Row, Toby, Ida, the happy couple and Gertrude.
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There are several families all gathered here for a Hymoff family wedding. Kravetskies, Hymoffs, Waters, Kadetskies... I need your help to identify them all....
Left to right, Izzie, Toby, BZ, standing up in back : Millie and Abe and Ida. Who are seated in front of them?



With your help we'll get everyone identified...

Remember, I will not post the names of anyone still alive without their permission. If you want me to add your name, please just tell me!

A Family Celebration





















I've been told this was a Bar Mitzvah gathering. It was around 1945, soon after my grandfather Gustave had died (which is why Nanny Gert looks so sad. She is in front there on the right). My father was in the army.

Front to back, left to right (only people deceased are named - none of those still alive have given me permission yet):

left: Israel Hymoff, far right: , Gertrude Hymoff. The three boys in front are still with us, as is Gertrude's daughter, sitting at her side...
Row of ladies in the middle (left to right): Sara, Charlotte, Dora, Gracie.
All the way in back: Dave Lesser, Arthur Book, Sam Rosenberg, Etta Book (Dora's stepdaughter), Bobbie Schildmeier and Sara's son.

Corrections are welcome...

Sunday 4 May 2008

Ellis Island entries for KADETSKY


These are entries of Kadetsky and similar names. If we Kadetskies are all related, then these are worth following up.
Sierpc is a town very close to Biezun and Golub Dobrzyn, and Zrjeps could be an alternative spelling. Szerpeck is in Hungary.
Abraham and Hadel Esther did not enter via Ellis Island as it did not yet exist when they came in in 1879. I have not been able to find them in Castle Garden records. We know they were in New York before moving to Boston, which was around 1880 or 81.
A bit of infomation for you dedicated genealogists in the family: CastleGarden.org offers free access to an extraordinary database of information on 10 million immigrants from 1830 through 1892, the year Ellis Island opened. Over 73 million Americans can trace their ancestors to this early immigration period.
There is only one Kadetsky there:
ISRAEL KADETSKY, LABORER aged 30 Male, arrived on 20 Jun 1871 from GERMANY Ship: WISCONSIN
They might be listed under different spelling variations. In the 1880 census Abraham and family are listed as CADESKY.

AGNES KADESKA, GENTLEMAN'S SERVANT age 26 Female, arrived 22 Mar 1889 from GERMANY, Ship: AMERICA

Boston Jewish Advocate KADETSKY Obituaries and Wedding Announcements



This is the kind of information that makes people say "oh, THAT'S how we're related!!!"

"our" Kadetsky BMD records and census data

The earliest mention in Boston is:
1900 United States Federal Census: Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston -27 Lowell Street
Abraham J. KADETSKY (born May 1855 in Poland/Russia) is the head of the household. He is married to Shifra/Scillia/Celia (born January 1857 in Poland/Russia). They were married in approximately 1879. Both of their parents were born in Poland/Russia. Abraham and Scillia both arrived in the United States in 1878 and Abraham is a naturalized citizen. Abraham’s occupation is listed as “Tailor (coats).” They have the following children (I have colour-coded them to match them to later census records):

1. Isaac (male born October 1879 in New York)
2. Jacob (male born June 1881 in New York)
3. Louis (male born February 1884 in New York)
4. Benjamin (male born May 1885 in New York)
5. Flora (female born February 1888 in Massachusetts)
6. Charles (male born May 1889 in Massachusetts)
7. Isidor (male born July 1892 in Massachusetts)
8. Ro?? (Reuben?) (male born October 1898 in Massachusetts).

Also living with Abraham and Scillia is:

1. Abraham’s cousin, Simon HYMOF (male born May 1885 in Russia). maybe Simon Waters?

1910 United States Federal Census- Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston: 28 Lambert Street
Isaac KADETSKY
(born about 1881 in New York) is the head of the household. He is married to Annie A. (born about 1883 in Russia/Yiddish). Isaac and Annie were married in about 1901. Both of their parents are listed as being born in Russia/Yiddish. By 1910, Annie had three children but only two were still living. Annie arrived in the United States in 1884. Isaac’s occupation is listed as “Collector of furniture.” Isaac and Annie have two children living with them:

1. Martha (female born about 1903 in Massachusetts)
2. Ethel F. (female born about 1908 in Massachusetts).

Note: Isaac KADETSKY and family are found in the 1920 census. Information included later in this document.

1910 Massachusetts, Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston: 20 Normandy Street
Jacob KADETSKY
(born about 1882 in New York) is the head of the household. He is married to Rebecca (Wallockstein) (born about 1886 in Russia/Yiddish). Both of their parents were born in Russia/Yiddish. Jacob and Rebecca were married in about 1905. They have two children:

1. Allen (male born about 1907 in Massachusetts)
2. David (male born about 1909 in Massachusetts).

Note: Jacob KADETSKY and family are found in the 1920 census. Information included later in this document.

1920 Masschusetts, Suffolk County, Roxbury: 112 Brunswick Street
Benjamin SPELLMAN
(born about 1889 in Russia) is the head of the household. He arrived in the United States in 1898. He is married to Flora (born about 1889 in Massachusetts). Living with Benjamin and Flora is their daughter:

1. Louise R. (female born about 1916 in Massachusetts).
Also living with Benjamin and Flora are:
1. Benjamin’s father-in-law, Abraham J. KADETSKY (born about 1860 in Russia). Abraham arrived in the United States in 1880 and became a naturalized citizen in 1885.
2. Benjamin’s mother-in-law, Shifra/ Celia (born about 1858 in Russia). She arrived in the United States in 1880.

1920 Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston: Street address is not readable
Charles KADETSKY (born about 1890 in Massachusetts) is the head of the household. He is married to Anna (born about 1895 in Russia/Poland). Anna arrived in the United States in 1901. Living with Charles and Anna are their two children:
1. Jordan (male born about 1917 in Massachusetts) (Irving)?
2. Isabelle (female born about 1920 in Massachusetts).
Also living with Charles and Anna are:
1. Charles’ brother-in-law, Samuel FINKELSTEIN (born about 1891 in Russia). Samuel arrived in the United States in 1905 and became a naturalized citizen in 1917.
2. Charles’ sister-in-law, Lena (born about 1899 in Poland). Lena arrived in the United States in 1901.
3. Charles’ nephew, Joseph FINKELSTEIN (born about 1919 in Massachusetts).

1920 Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston: 89 Intervale Street
Louis KADETSKY
(born about 1884 in Massachusetts) is the head of the household. He is married to Sophie (born about 1889 in Russia). Sophie arrived in the United States in 1889. Their children, as listed below, are living with them:
1. Marian (female born about 1908 in Massachusetts)
2. Rose (female born about 1913 in Massachusetts)
3. Bernice (female born about 1920 in Massachusetts).

Also living with Louis and Sophie is:

1. Louis’ mother-in-law, Lena SHERMAN (born about 1860 in Russia). Lena is listed as a widow and arrived in the United States in 1895.
2. Louis’ brother-in-law, Edward SHERMAN (born about 1888 in Russia). Edward arrived in the United States in 1895.
3. Louis’ sister-in-law, Esther SHERMAN (born about 1890 in Russia). Esther arrived in the United States in 1899.
4. Louis’ nephew, Manuel SHERMAN (born about 1911 in Massachusetts)
5. Louis’ nephew, Henry SHERMAN (born about 1917 in Massachusetts).

1920 Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston: 91 Intervale Street
Isaac KADETSKY
(born about 1881 in New York) is the head of the household. He is married to Annie A. (born about 1892 in Massachusetts). Annie arrived in the United States in 1892 Their children, as listed below, live with them:
1. Martha (female born about 1904 in Massachusetts).
2. Ethel (female born about 1908 in Massachusetts).

Also living with Isaac and Annie are:
1. Isaac’s father-in-law, David RICH (born about 1847 in Western Poland). David arrived in the United States in 1890.
2. Isaac’s mother-in-law, Annie P. RICH (born about 1840 in Warsaw, Poland). She arrived in the United States in 1883.

1920 Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston: 484 Blue Hill Avenue
Jacob KADETSKY
(born about 1883 in New York) is the head of the household. He is married to Rebecca (born about 1886 in Russia/Poland). Rebecca arrived in the United States in 1890. Their children, as listed below, are living with them:

1. Allan (male born about 1907 in Massachusetts)
2. David (male born about 1910 in Massachusetts)
3. Myron (male born about 1916 in New York).

Here the Hymoff and Kadetsky familes interconnect again:
1920 Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston 5 Otisfield Street
Max Cohen
(male born about 1884 in Ohio) is living with his wife Dora Hymoff Cohen (female born about 1893 in Massachusetts). They have three children: Sydney (male born about 1915 in Massachusetts), Melvin (male born about 1917 in Massachusetts), and Selma B. (female born about 1919 in Massachusetts). The entire Cohen family is listed as being Jewish. Max’s occupation is listed as “Cutter” in store.

Also living with Max and his family are:

· His father-in-law, Israel Hymoff (male born about 1868 in Russia). Israel is listed as a widower and is listed as being Jewish. Both of his parent’s are listed as being born in Russia. Israel’s occupation is listed as “Florist” in a florist store.
· His brother-in-law, Gustave Hymoff (male born about 1895 in Massachusetts). Gustave is listed as being single and Jewish.
· His sister-in-law, Grace Hymoff (female born about 1898 in Massachusetts). Listed as single and Jewish. Grace’s occupation is listed as working in a dress factory
· His sister-in-law, Charlotte Hymoff (female born about 1903 in Massachusetts). Listed as single and Jewish.
· His sister-in-law, Sarah Hymoff (female born about 1905 in Massachusetts). Listed as single and Jewish.
· His cousin, Moses (or Morris) Kadetsky (male born about 1894 in Massachusetts). Listed as married and Jewish. Parents were born in Russia. His occupation is a Salesman in shoe store.
· His cousin, Bessie Kadetsky (female born about 1895 in Massachusetts). Listed as married and Jewish. Parents were born in Russia.

1930 Masschusetts, Suffolk County, Roxbury: 112 Brunswick Street
Benjamin SPELLMAN (born about 1889 in Russia) is the head of the household. He arrived in the United States in 1898. He is married to Flora (born about 1889 in Massachusetts). Living with Benjamin and Flora is their daughter:

1. Louise R. (female born about 1916 in Massachusetts).
Also living with Benjamin and Flora are:
1. Irving, age 9 (male born around 1921 in MA) .
2. Benjamin’s mother-in-law, Shifra/Celia (born about 1858 in Russia). She arrived in the United States in 1880.

1930 Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Roxbury: 110 Brunswick Street
Louis Kadetsky
, male born in NY around 1884, married to Sophia (Sherman) in 1906
and their daughters:

Marion age 22
Rose age 18
Bernice 10
Eleanor age 4

I'll eventually get to organising all this better, but meanwhile, at least you can see the information.

The 1940 census will not be available to the public until 2012, so meanwhile we have other data, such as marrriage announcements, obituaries, etc. , as well as personal reporting from each family branch. If you have any to add, please scan as a jpg and e-mail to the address above.

other Kadetsky census and records information

From several years' census records we have the following KADETSKY information that needs to be collated into a tree. They are not descendents of Abraham Josef nor do I yet know their exact relationship to us: maybe Samuel KADETSKY from Poland was related to our gggf R'Yitchak Yehoshua. Thanks to Celine who spent hours wading through records at the Records Bureau in Boston (her notes are included as they clarify some things) :

Death Certificates info:
1) Isaac Kadetsky died July 11th 1891 (born July 14th 1854) at age 38, died of Pericarditis, lived on Prince street in Boston, no info on the burial site. Occupation: Clerk. Parents' birthplace and name: Samuel and Rosa "Abraham" ( unfortunately there was a hole in the original paper right where her name was: I spent a while studying it and this the best I could make out of it). Both from Russia
Isaac's sons:
2) Jacob Kadetsky ( number 2) Born July 16th 1883 (Father: Isaac Kadetsky and mother Dora), Father's job: clerk, both parents born in Poland.
3) Abraham Kadetsky, Born on Feb 28th 1885 (From parents Isaac and Dora Kadetsky) lived at 33 Pitts street Boston.
As you will see there are a lot of repeated names.
The 2 original Isaac and Jacob from Russia had different parents, maybe the fathers Elias and Samuel were brothers.

4) Jacob Kadetsky died on March 1rst 1906 (born Sept. 20th 1853) at age 51 ( that is what it says on the death Cert., but if the birth day is accurate then he was really 53). He was a Peddler. Lived at 11 Payston street Boston. Son of Elias Kadetsky from Russia and Gertrude Lashinsky born in Russia. Below is the death certificate from a son that Jacob had: Abram Kadetsky died Aug 13th 1889 at 1 year and 10 months old, Parents: Jacob and Pauline Kadetsky, Russia. Lived at 23 Decatur street in Boston, They are also the parents of Rosa Kadetsky, born in 1882.

CENSUS INFORMATION:

1910: Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston: 75 Lawrence Avenue
Henry A. PORCELENO? (born about 1880 in Massachusetts) is the head of the household. He is married to Fr?? (born about 1880 in Massachusetts). They have been married since about 1906. Henry’s parents were born in Holland/Dutch and Fr??’s parents were born in Russia/Yiddish. They had one child who died before the 1910 census. Henry’s occupation is listed as a “Cigar maker in a factory.” Living with Henry and Fr?? is:

1. Henry’s mother-in-law, Pauline KADETSKY (born about 1855 in Germany). Pauline is a widow. She has had eight children but only seven are living in the 1910 census. Her parents were from Germany and Pauline arrived in the United States in 1872.
2. Henry’s sister-in-law, Naettia KADETSKY (born about 1886 in Massachusetts)
3. Henry’s sister-in-law, Lena KADETSKY (born about 1891 in Massachusetts)
4. Henry’s sister-in-law, Martha KADETSKY (born about 1893 in Massachusetts)
5. Henry’s sister-in-law, Edna KADETSKY (born about 1899 in Massachusetts).

1920 United States Federal Census: Massachusetts, Middlesex County, Everett: 145 Jefferson Avenue
Abraham KADETSKY
(born about 1862 in Poland) is the head of the household. He arrived in the United States in 1901. He is married to Bessie (born about 1862 in Poland). Bessie arrived in the United States in 1905. Both of their parents are listed as being from Poland. Abraham’s occupation is listed as “Junk-man in a junk shop.” Living with Abraham and Bessie are their children:
1. Arthur (male born about 1890 in Poland). Arthur arrived in the United States in 1905.
2. Hyman (male born about 1896 in Poland). Hyman arrived in the United States in 1904.
Also living with Abraham and Bessie are:
1. Abraham’s son-in-law, Samuel MUSEMAN (born about 1893 in East Russia).
2. Abraham’s daughter (wife of Samuel MUSEMAN), Ida (born about 1897 in Poland).
3. Abraham’s grandson, Jake MUSEMAN (born about 1919 in Massachusetts)
4. Abraham’s grandson, Arthur MUSEMAN (born about 1919 in Massachusetts).

1920 Massachusetts, Worcester County, Clinton: 36 Pond Court
Edward KADETSKY (born about 1885 in Poland) is the head of the household. He arrived in the United States in 1904. He is married to Pearl (born about 1893 in Russia). Pearl also arrived in the United States in 1904.

It might be much easier to find those born in Poland if we had their Hebrew names, as that is most likely how they were recorded in the Polish archives.

BTW, many times when it states a person was born in "Russia"; they mean Poland as for many years, Poland belonged to Russia.

KADETSKY surname in Poland




Thanks to Wlodek Malinowsky, we have a list of towns in whose archives the Surname KADECKI (in English KADETSKY) can be found. JRI Poland has a very good search system that you can go through if you want the exact details, however, after reading through the lists, I find nothing resembling our known ancestors, Abraham Josef and Hadel Esther and their father R'Yitchak Yehoshua.

Here is a map where all the towns mentioned are marked. I'd been meaning to put this up for a long time but finally have got around to it, since Wlodek kindly sent the lists along and I hope it is as interesting to you as it is to me.

The towns where we've found Kadecki listings are (keep in mind that OUR direct Kadetsky ancestors all emigrated before 1880):

Biezun (86 entries, between 1828 and 1894)
Drobin (One entry, 1837, the death record for Iciek Abramowicz KADECKI)
Golub Dobrzyn (6 entries, all after 1890)
Plock (2 entries, 1869 and 1876, a marriage - Szulim- and the death of Chana Ruchla)
Plonsk (one entry, 1892 the marriage of Chenoch KADECKI)
Warsaw (4 entries, between 1887 and 1904)
Zakroczym (20 entries between 1862 and 1897)
Zuromin (one entry: 1898 marriage of Zurech)
Ciechanow (Katacki - possible variation in spelling) (2 entries from 1841)

Mlawa: the town where other listings are recorded.
Torun: the Archives where the Biezun records are located.

We also found an entry in Zychlin, for a Wasercug. The town is close enough to indicate that the Waters family and the Kadetsky family may have known each other in Poland already. There are several Hymoffs/Chaimows in the area but that is a more common surname and thus may or may not be related to us. Lublin, where Israel Hymoff reportedly was born, is in the lower right hand corner and close enough to leave the possibility open that there is a pre-USA link.

All comments are welcome!