1910 Chaim and Chaje Kadetski

Ellis Island offers is these arrival records: 

First Name: Chaim

 Last Name: Kadetski
Ethnicity: Russia
Last Place of Residence: Dobrsyn, Russia *
Date of Arrival: Oct 15, 1910
Age at Arrival: 19y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Amerika
Port of Departure: Hamburg, Germany
Manifest Line Number: 0027


* On the Kadetsky Map of Poland, There is a town called Golub Dobrzyn, very close to Biezun and Sierpc.

First Name: Chaje
Last Name: Kadetski
Ethnicity: Russia
Last Place of Residence: Dobrsyn, Russia
Date of Arrival: Oct 15, 1910
Age at Arrival: 17y Gender: F Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Amerika
Port of Departure: Hamburg, Germany
Manifest Line Number: 0028

Brother and sister coming to join other siblings?   Benjamin J's children Ida and Hyman?  Maybe that is why he went back to Europe - to get his children?  The dates do coincide....  If Ida was 17, she would have been born around  1893 and Hyman was 19 so he was born around 1890-91, which matches his gravestone.

KADETSKY surname in Poland

Thanks to Wlodek Malinowsky, we have a list of towns in whose archives the Surname KADECKI (in English KADETSKY) can be found. JRI Poland has a very good search system that you can go through if you want the exact details, however, after reading through the lists, I find nothing resembling our known ancestors, Abraham Josef and Hadel Esther and their father R'Yitchak Yehoshua.

Here is a map where all the towns mentioned are marked. I'd been meaning to put this up for a long time but finally have got around to it, since Wlodek kindly sent the lists along and I hope it is as interesting to you as it is to me.

The towns where we've found Kadecki listings are (keep in mind that OUR direct Kadetsky ancestors all emigrated before 1880):

Biezun (86 entries, between 1828 and 1894)
Drobin (One entry, 1837, the death record for Iciek Abramowicz KADECKI)
Golub Dobrzyn (6 entries, all after 1890)
Plock (2 entries, 1869 and 1876, a marriage - Szulim- and the death of Chana Ruchla)
Plonsk (one entry, 1892 the marriage of Chenoch KADECKI)
Warsaw (4 entries, between 1887 and 1904)
Zakroczym (20 entries between 1862 and 1897)
Zuromin (one entry: 1898 marriage of Zurech)
Ciechanow (Katacki - possible variation in spelling) (2 entries from 1841)

Mlawa: the town where other listings are recorded.
Torun: the Archives where the Biezun records are located.

We also found an entry in Zychlin, for a Wasercug. The town is close enough to indicate that the Waters family and the Kadetsky family may have known each other in Poland already. There are several Hymoffs/Chaimows in the area but that is a more common surname and thus may or may not be related to us. Lublin, where Israel Hymoff reportedly was born, is in the lower right hand corner and close enough to leave the possibility open that there is a pre-USA link.

All comments are welcome!