442 Kadetsky references in the old New York State Historical Newspapers

Found a great search engine to search over 25,084,000 old New York State Historical Newspaper pages. It has 442 hits for Kadetsky. I see that some are definitely references to "our" Kadetskys. Type "Kadetsky" into the search box. Feel free to post what you find! http://fultonhistory.com/Fulton_New_form.html

Isaac Kadetsky (1851-1891) and Charles Saul Kadetsky; A case of multiple aliases?

I have a hypothesis to explain the 2 Charles Saul Kadetskys in the same family belonging headed by Dora Kadetsky nee Frye. Isaac Kadetsky was married to Dora Frye. Dora's youngest Kadetsky son, Charles Saul Kadetsky was born October 1891, 3 months after his father Isaac had died. Later records from this family record the father's name as Charles Saul Kadetsky as opposed to Isaac Kadetsky. In fact the records belonging to the son Charles Saul Kadetsky (b. 1891) indicate that his father was also named Charles Saul Kadetsky. It would make sense for him to have been named after his deceased father. So my hypothesis is that the first Charles Saul Kadetsky is also known as Isaac Kadetsky and that his youngest son who was born after he died was named after him with the name Charles Saul Kadetsky.
Dora Frye had the following Kadetsky children; Samuel, Edward, Jacob, Abraham, Benjamin and Soll Charles. On the 1880 US Census she was living in NY with husband Isac Kadezky and son Samuel. At some point they moved to Boston. By the 1900 Census she had remarried to David Gans living in Boston. Isac Kadetsky’s death certificate indicates that he died July 1891.
Edward, Abraham and Charles all list their father as Saul C. on the marriage registries as found on familysearch.org. Samuel and Benjamin list their father as Charles S. On Jacob Kadetsky's 1907 marriage registration he lists his father as Isaac Kadetsky. All the marriage certificates list Dora Frye as the mother.
Abraham and Benjamin’s birth records list their parents as Isaac and Dora Kadetsky.
In 1897, Dora remarried after Isaac death to David Gans. On that marriage registry she lists her parents as Isaac and Bessie Frye. So Dora Isaacs is a patronymic form her last name.
Abraham Kadetsky's birth record (Boston, 2/28/1885) on familysearch.com lists his parents as Isaac and Dora Kadetsky. So here we have Abraham's birth record listing his dad as Isaac and his marriage record in 1917 listing his father as Saul C.
The 1900 US Census shows Dora remarried to David Gans, with the following Kadetsky children which all match the info for the children that Dora had with Isaac: Samuel, Edward, Jacob, Abraham, Benjamin and Soll C.
Assuming this is all the same family, which seems very likely, earlier records have Isaac Kadetsky documented as the father while later records, specifically the marriages of the sons starting 15 years after Isaac’s death lists their father as Charles Saul or Saul Charles, which is a more Americanized name than Isaac. Could Isaac Kadetsky and Charles Saul be the same person? I think they are. Finally it is evident that Charles Saul b.1891 was likely named after his deceased father and therefore he and his father shared the same name.

Kadetsky Probate Records in NY

Jewish Genealogist, Allan Jordan posted on the jewishgen.org list serve “about using probate files and the value of wills and estate papers as an underused source of genealogical information.” I went to the familysearch.org index of probates for NY to research Kadetsky. There are 2 Kadetsky probate records listed in the index, 1 in Kings County and 1 in Erie County. There may be more but the other counties are not alphabetized;
Abraham Kadetsky in Brooklyn, NY
Benjamin Kadetsky in Erie, NY dated March 6, 1924. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-24584-3696-81?cc=1920234&wc=M9S9-LJG:n259245299

These records could include wills and how descendants are related. I don’t know yet how I’m going to access these records or how to check the Massachusetts probate records. I have emailed Allan Jordan to see if he could help getting NY and MA records.

Herman Kadetsky's family mystery grows.....multiple Charles Kadetskys, multiple mothers but one sister Rose?

I found the following obituary while searching for info on the Cambria, Johnstown Penn family. It brings up many questions about Herman and Hinda Kadetsky's family in Cambria. According to their Ellis Island manifests, Herman was Sussman Kadetsky's brother.

Here is the Obit in question:
January 10,1964 Friday Teves 25, 5724
The Jewish Chronicle
-Page Twenty-three
Obituaries
KADETSKY — Jennie Fried Kadetsky of Johnstown, Pa. died Jan. 4. She is survived by six sons, Jack S. Fried, of New York, George K. and Harold Fried, both of Youngstown, O., and Joseph Fried, of Akron, O., and Jacob and Charles Kadetsky, of Johnstown, Poland a daughter, Mrs. Rose Sherer, of Johnstown, Pa. Also 14 grandchildren and 13 great-grandchildren. Services were held at Ralph Schugar Chapel. Interment Tiferith Israel Cemetery.

http://pjn.library.cmu.edu/books/CALL1/CHR_tape/CHR_1964_002_045_01101964/vol0/part0/copy0/ocr/txt/0023.txt

I don't know who this Jennie Fried Kadetsky is. It seems that she was married to a man with last name Fried and had 4 sons, Jack, George, Harold and Joseph. It is unclear how she is the mother of Jacob and Charles Kadetsky and Rose Sherer.

There is an obit for Charles Kadetsky that lists his parents as Hyman & Hilda (Neufeld) Kadetsky (brother of Sussman Kadetsky from the Israel MOshe Kadecki family tree) and survived by his sister as Rose Sherer. http://www.camgenpa.com/obit/scans/_prgs/obDetl.php?recd=29518

What really confuses me is that in the 1910 US Census; Hyaim (34) [AKA Herman] and Hinde (34) Kadetsky lived in Cambria, Pennsylvania on Market Street. Living at home at the time was Abraham (13), Charles (11), Moses (9) and Rose (2). Everyone was born in Russia/Germany aside from Rose who was born in Penn. Hyaim worked as tailor is in clothing store.

Then in the 1940 US Census we find the following information regarding Herman's family; Herman had 2 brothers living with him at the time. Charles, 58 in 1940 (b. 1882) and Jacob 48 in 1940 (b.1892) are living with Herman in addition to his wife and daughter Rosa. I have found no other documentation of these “brothers” to this point.

There is a Jacob Kadetsky who is buried in Grandview Cemetery in Johnstown PA, the same cemetery as Herman, Hinda, Charles and Abraham. Abram died in 1913 at approx 15 yo, Herman died 9/23/1948 and Hinda died 8/25/1946.

How is this family all tied together? HMMMMMMM............

Ira Kaye, son of Irving Kadetsky, grandson of Sussman Kadetsky Interview!

I just found an incredible interview of Ira Kaye (Kadetsky) a grandson of Sussman Kadetsky, great grandson of Israel Moshe Kadetsky branch. The interview is something of a genealogist dream interview as he describes how his family came to America and how they lived. He even talks how his grandmother's family (not the Kadetsky side) was involved in the Civil War! The interview confirms that research that we have done and adds so much biographical information that is so hard to come by. The audio and transcript can be found here. Eat your heart out.....
http://lowcountrydigital.library.cofc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=%2FJOH&CISOPTR=631&CISOBOX=1&REC=3

I found the interview of Ira Kaye, after I found out from this death announcement that he had changed his name from Kadetsky to Kaye. Here is the death announcement for his father in the Sumter Daily Event on May 6, 1963:
“Sumter Attorney Loses Father; Service Today
Graveside services were to be held in New York City today for Irving Kadetsky, father of Ira Kaye, Sumter attorney.
Kadetsky, who made his home with his son here for the past year, died Sunday morning at Toumey Hospital after a brief illness.
Surviving in addition to his son are a daughter, Mrs. Martin Schwartz of Long Island, and five grandchildren.
The body was sent from Hurst Funeral Home to I. Weil and Sons in New York City for the services.”

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 It has been a while since Gary and I have been able to update the blog but some new finds might get it going again.  

Gary has been doing a tremendous amount of work on his family history and thanks to it we have managed to connect to several branches that were still "loose".  Still no links between Szaya Aziel and Abraham Joseph 1879, we maybe this will be the year we discover the connection.

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