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Monday, 14 July 2008

correspondence relating to KADETSKY

Over the years I have been in touch with people who for some reason were connected with certain surnames. I will slowly copy some of the correspondence here in case anything rings a bell with anyone...

June 2004
"All I have for you about the KADETSKY name is that a man who may have been named Ben Kadetsky married a woman whose last name was SOBEL. They had at least one child possibly named Sam Kadetsky. Ben Kadetsky would have been born about 1840. I have no documentation. This information was given to me by an in-law of mine related to the Sobels. Family tradition says the Sobels came from Poland. I have no information about anyone in Boston. The Sobels I know of were New Yorkers. Sorry I can't be more helpful.

Friday, 20 June 2008

WASSERZUG- WATERS

Si Waters and his Hymoff sisters, Dora, Grace, Charlotte and Sarah, at a family wedding in 1950.

Adeline (Hadel Esther) KADETSKY married a man named WASSERZUG in the US and later divorced him. They had a son, Simon, born in 1885, who is called "Simon Hymoff" in some census records. He later changed the name to WATERS. Adeline soon after married Israel Hymoff and they had five surviving children, the four ladies in the picture above and my grandfather Gustave.

We have been unable to find Simon's father's first name anywhere. I hope a visit to the Archives might turn it up, or even yield the marriage information of Adeline and Mr. Wasserzug.

- 1900 United States Federal Census: Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston
27 Lowell Street home of Abraham KADETSKY. Living with him, was

* Abraham’s cousin, Simon HYMOF (male born May 1885 in Russia).

- 1910 Census: "Technology Chambers - 8 Livingston Street" Boston"Simon Waters was in Boston in the 1910 Census. He was 23 in 1910, born abt 1886, single, lodger, wool salesman. He was born in Massachusetts, but his mother and father were born in Poland/Russ/Yiddish. " (info sent me by a helpful fellow genner) .

1925 Boston Business Directory:
Waters Simon, wool 263 Summer rm 506 h at B'line

1930 census:

Simon Waters (aged 43) was living on number 9, Rawson (Sp?) Road with his wife, Minna Coles (aged 39 and born in Pennsylvania of Russian parents), his son Richard N (age 7) and his daughter Esther (Waters Bovarnick) ( age 4.5) and their servant Margaret Kelly, aged 29.


I'd like to develop this line a little further and hope the Waters family will contribute pictures and more information...

HYMOFFs and KADETSKIES in the Census

All Kadetskies are in RED
First of all, I have the following Naturalisation information on Israel Hymoff:

Declaration of Intention
1 document 3 pages – Israel Hymoff
Petition for Naturalisation
Born Lublin Russian Poland Sept 11 1871
Arrived NY, NY June 26 1889

I have looked several times for a ship that arrived in NYC on that date without any luck.

The 1890 census was destroyed in a fire, so we will never know what it said.

CENSUS RECORDS:

1900 United States Federal Census: Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Chelsea
102 Everett Avenue
Israel Hymuth (male born in January 1869 in Russia) is living with his wife Adaline (female born in January 1866 in Poland). They have four children: Simon (male born January 1885 in Massachusetts), Dora (female born December 1891 in Massachusetts), Getchel (male born September 1893 in Massachusetts), and Rachael (female born August 1894 in Massachusetts). Isreal and Adaline have been married for nine years.

Israel arrived in the United States in 1890 and is a naturalized citizen. His parents were born in Russia. Adaline arrived in 1879. Her parents were born in Poland (Russia).

1910 United States Federal Census: Massachusetts
Israel is listed in the census records as an inmate a Sanatorium in Rutland MA.:
Massachusetts, Worcester County, Rutland: Rutland State Sanatorium: Israel HYMOFF is a patient in the sanatorium. He was born in about 1868 in Germany. He has been married for 17 years. His parents were both born in Germany. Israel arrived in the United States in 1887 and is a naturalized citizen. He speaks English. His occupation is listed as “Merchant”

The remaining "HYMASS" family was found as follows:
191 Magnolia Street, Suffolk County: Israel Hymas or Hymov, aged 47, Adeline, aged 46, Gustave, son aged 15, Dora, daughter aged 17, Grace, aged 11, Lottie age 8 and Sarah age 6.

1920 United States Federal Census: Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston
5 Otisfield Street
Max Cohen (male born about 1884 in Ohio) is living with his wife Dora (female born about 1893 in Massachusetts). They have three children: Sydney (male born about 1915 in Massachusetts), Melvin (male born about 1917 in Massachusetts), and Selma B. (female born about 1919 in Massachusetts). The entire Cohen family is listed as being Jewish. Max’s occupation is listed as “Cutter” in store.

Also living with Max and his family are:

· His father-in-law, Israel Hymoff (male born about 1868 in Russia). Israel is listed as a widower and is listed as being Jewish. Both of his parents are listed as being born in Russia. Israel’s occupation is listed as “Florist” in a florist store.
· His (Max's) brother-in-law, Gustave Hymoff (male born about 1895 in Massachusetts). Gustave is listed as being single and Jewish.
· His sister-in-law, Grace Hymoff (female born about 1916 in Massachusetts). Listed as single and Jewish. Grace’s occupation is listed as working in a dress factory·
* His sister-in-law, Charlotte Hymoff (female born about 1903 in Massachusetts). Listed as single and Jewish.
· His sister-in-law, Sarah Hymoff (female born about 1905 in Massachusetts). Listed as single and Jewish.
· His cousin, Moses Kadetsky (male born about 1894 in Massachusetts). Listed as married and Jewish. Parents were born in Russia. His occupation is a Salesman in shoe store.
· His cousin, Bessie Kadetsky (female born about 1895 in Massachusetts). Listed as married and Jewish. Parents were born in Russia.

1930 United States Federal Census: Massachusetts, Suffolk County, Boston5 Otisfield Street
Max Cohen (male born about 1885 in Ohio) is living with his wife Dora (female born about 1893 in Masschusetts). They have four children: Sydney (male born about 1914 in Massachusetts), Melvin (male born about 1917 in Massachusetts), S*** (female born about 1919 in Massachusetts) and Henry (male born about 1918 in Massachusetts and since identified as belonging to another Cohen family). The entire Cohen family is listed as being Jewish. Max was 28 years old when he married Dora, who was 19 years old. The family owned a radio. Max’s occupation is listed as a “Cutter” for ladies' garments.

Also living with Max and his family are:

· His father-in-law, Israel Hymoff (male born about 1870 in Russia). Israel is listed as being a widower and Jewish. Israel’s occupation is listed as “Florist” jobbing. His native tongue is Hebrew. He arrived in the United States in 1891 and is a naturalized citizen.

760 Montana StreetGustave Hymoff (male born about 1896 in Massachusetts) is living with his wife Gertrude E. (female born about 1898 in Russia). They have two children: Edward (male born about 1924 in Massachusetts) and P**** (female born about 1929 in Massachusetts). Gertrude’s native tongue is listed as Yiddish and she arrived in the United States in 1906. She is a naturalized citizen. Gustave’s occupation is listed as “Florist.” The family owns a radio.

The 1940 census will be made public in 2012, meanwhile.....

Many details in the census information are incorrect - this can be due to sloppy filling out by the census taker, bad English communication skills by the informant, mistaken interpretation by the person introducing the data into the indexing system, or any other factor. And his grandchildren tell us that Israel tended to tell everyone different things about his origins, so we will never know if he was listed as "German" at Rutland by a mistaken staff member or if he himself made it up, maybe stating that where he was from was at the time actually Germany and no longer Poland.....   Borders did shift a lot back then!

Saturday, 31 May 2008

Indirect relatives - The Books

Etta's father Arthur Book married Dora Hymoff Cohen, bringing his children Etta, Gertrude and Joseph, from his previous marriage into the family. Ed and Etta were very close friends all their lives and they lived nearby when Ed lived in Yonkers and we met frequently I visited Etta in Florida last in 1992. Her two children are great and now have children of their own.

Dora had first been married to Max Cohen, with whom she had three children, one of whom is still with us. I coincided with Melvin and Sidney and his wife Tammy at several family gatherings in the 70's but haven't found any pictures of them yet.


These pictures were taken at the Bohm's home in Hartsdale NY, cerca 1975.
After taking a look at those old pictures and saying "OH MY !!!!, Matt Bohm sent me these much more recent pictures of himself and his family and gave me permission to tell you who they are: Matt and his wife Jill, daughter Hally and son Zach.


Confused as to the relationship? Take a look at the tree posted at
http://hymoffkoeppelfamily.blogspot.com/2007/11/hymoff-family-tree.html

Saturday, 24 May 2008

1910 census HYMOFF

In the 1910 census, the Hymoff family (recorded as the "Hymass" family) was living at 191 Magnolia Street in Suffolk County, MA. They were: Israel, Adeline, Gustave (the son first although he was not the oldest!) Dora, Grace, Lottie (Charlotte) and Sarah. It took me some time to find them and am extremely grateful to the helpful Genner who found the record and scanned it for us!

Adeline and Israel Hymoff's unsurviving children


This is the original death record of Lena Hymoff, born to Adeline and Israel Hymoff in Boston and died aged 7 months on January 6, 1897.
There was another child named Rachel who must have died as she did not reach adulthood. She is mentioned in the 1900 census as having been born in 1899. Although she could be a mistake and really be Grace Rebecca with a wrong birth date. Census are filled with errors.
A boy named Getchel is also named in the 1900 census, as having been born in Boston in 1893. Unless it is an error and it is really Gustave born in 1895, Adeline then had three children who did not survive childhood. This was unfortunately frequent back then.
Adeline's children would have been the following:
Simon Waters - born 1885
Dora Hymoff - born 1892
Getchel born 1893 - death date unknown
Gustave - born 1895
Lena - born 1896 - died 1897
Grace Rebecca - born 1898
Rachel - born 1899 - death date unknown
Charlotte - born 1902
Sarah - born 1904
This tree will help sort matters out:

Sarah Ross Hymoff Rosenberg







My great-Aunt Sarah was born in Boston on April 6, 1904 (above is her original birth record in the Boston Archives) and died in 2000. She married Sam Rosenberg and they had two sons. Sarah and my mother shared a great interest for health and nutrition and were both pioneers in organic food and were great friends until 1982, when Sarah visited us here on the Canary Islands and saw how ill my mother was yet refused to stop smoking. It was not as friendly a visit as it should have been and I know both of them were saddened by it. Sarah remained in excellent health and lived to the ripe age of 96! I did remain in contact with Sarah and with Sam too, until they died and know how fond my father was of them both.